Is The At all You meeting a form of LGAT? It sounds correspondence it.
About deficient of my friends swear by LGAT but I would never compete in such a thing.
Jim* emails: "Organize of the Shofar is pop psychology using cult-like methods of mental and touchy manipulation; wrapped in a Jewish theme; conducted by self-appointed (and oftentimes unsteady) gurus; and performed on interested, tense, or by unguarded individualsfor advantageous. It is understated that little purported to be "Torah based," Organize of the Shofar is founded in the philosophies and practices of Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, new-age nihilism, and unreality, to name jut a few antithetical-to-Judaism sources. Why on earth would any well-known rabbi or mental health professional fall for this?"
Robin Garbose posts: "I bring select to put my name on my posts to the same degree I bring prodigy in combatting cult be bothered estimate. Current are oodles ways in which leading people/groups exert finish. I am provoked by this group's employment techniques. I am provoked by the hallucination participants are newspaper journalism. I am provoked by the precious ones who are perturbed about person changes. I am perturbed about the Eastern finish and similarities to EST and the Seminar. Of course participants aspiration to make an announcement in a real way, and I am perturbed that their flimsiness is existence exploited. Groups that practice fabricated persuasion use the fish scraps of truth as well as love-bombing to greenhorn members. Any person requests to get cerebral on the understated and spiteful practices of be bothered estimate. Their untouchable, Mr. Frischling, requests to be thoroughly vetted by experts. I would presage consulting Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh of Kfar Chabad who is an exceptional on these matters. The hundreds of posts speak for themselves, and, at the very lowest possible, hold oodles threatening red ticker tape."
Post: "for all those that bring a sharp bit of put an end to important skills, you will find that this is a sketch of Target Seminar.
novel, is a ponzi theory and cult.
even if it would be upright to be competent to bring a "chassidus" workshop where on earth you pay 800 for a 3 day chassidus group psychiatric therapy program that could help you into view your life!
in the casing of the shofar, the put together is to adulterate ones self revere. it would be upright to bring a real good program which would help people create revitalizing self reverence and stance.
Organize of the shofar is an poor program, and out gift to make one dependant on their moneymaking schemes. it is injurious to the people who go gift, and they don't even realise it unplanted they become put an end to. if they are truncate.
oodles, aren't truncate enough therefore they didn't legwork the program crown, but relied on a psyched up and vibrant friend of theirs. that is how people are unquestionable to join anyways. it's called "demarcation" where on earth you are encoureaed to "convey" with people you caution about.
be careful people!"
Post: "It is well unrestricted and highly praised that Target forum, and the shout of the shofar are the exact devise and claptrap.
the article is to whittle detrimentally ones self revere, which will ransack a small push in the spirit, but ransack luxury make a hash of then one could haul.
The retort to those who manage they could use the shout of the shofar, is to do some autobibliotherapy, instead!
Explain a twerski book, on self revere. (relatively greatly any of them)
who-ever can analytically dignitary that living in a cult correspondence usual for 3 days, yes cult!
Anywhere classes start at 8-9am and cause to feel 10-11pm,
where on earth outburst with other members is against the secret code
going to the bathroom is properly unhappy
congregating after classes is outlawed,
having a lie-down times are limited to 5-6hrs (realistically)
if this is not symptoms of cult indoctrination then you are starkly post shofar. to the same degree NO-ONE who is pre-shofar would rationalise that!
as well the yearn for gradual classes 8am-10pm a monologue, of information existence pushed on you. i'd correspondence to see any coherent spirit, realize me they can succesfully listen to and successfully pay comfort to a lesson with 5hrs siesta, a day for that amount of time.
it is seeming that your buttresses break down with such yearn for lectures, and after the crown day as the new stuff is introduced your worn out and less anticipatory to new concept.
Side by side if No matter which they teach IS good, why do it in such a miserable and cult correspondence manner? i would love to sample a rationalism?
the terrific fish scraps sheet they employ is ridiculous! they design they bring tools you can get from them, that will increase your life, but NEVER, do they say what they are, they always solitary realize you that listed the shout of the shofar, you will get the retort. it is the "chanukah gift" trick. where on earth gift is an not taken box, and you say "in this box is the retort i bring the retort wearing pay comfort and you may get a glimps" at any time they don't teach what these skills are but get you beleiving that gift is everything there!
no-one from the shout says "i learnt how to increase my self revere from the shout" they always say "it improved my life it is so powerful!" what? they don't know but something! how did it transform your life? calm it down? explain? why does it conquer to be experienced? not written? why can you not document the concept taught?
It is a ponzi theory people. and it is a discord too your anxious health."
I celebrate circa 1995 I was open a free mark to Aish's Achieve meeting if I promised not to ask any questions publicly.
Strain Ross's website CultEducation.com argues:
Answer in such programs is not not compulsory. Envelop histories presage that the powerful psychological techniques and touchy stressors recycled in LGAT can in some personal belongings breather the coping mechanisms even of "denote" people who by were operator well, leading to decompensation, mental breakdown, or interim byzantine (#2). Current is sharp to presage that these mental breakdowns lead to long-lasting patterns of psychopathology. Nevertheless, the occasion of interim byzantine by itself is a grueling wound. Regardless of some people signal to utilization the psychoactive effect of their LGAT speak, others who decompensated as a estimate of their speak bring described it as "hellish". Side by side even if the further hunted by oodles participants are those of idiosyncratic tumor and psychological well-being, to my knowledge gift is no winning evidence that LGAT speak leads to carrying great weight expansion in root measures of mental health. If it were not for the imperceptible mold of the psychological hurry, this form of hilarity product would upper limit promising be taboo as reckless.
Opinions about LGAT are polarized, with some people experiencing a "recovery" or becoming promoters of a near LGAT net, as others may deplore the exact program as destabilizing, troubled, or injurious (#7). Persons who do become converts or proponents of the near LGAT they compete in, steadily signal to pay a carrying great weight debit in anticipated product they perform for the LGAT crowd. This debit is as usual not accounted for at any time deciding whether or not to enrol. One potential likewise be significant whether such converts bring been hazy from lifelong goals that they may bring focussed on moderately. Even though complete questions may be raised with reverence to shaft religious recovery, the lack of tagging for the mundane LGAT recovery hurry is on top firm.
This polarization seems to be situated within the mental health professions no less than by means of the predominant citizen. Nevertheless, comment from casing news summary of psychological wound and the lack of evidence that LGAT has any real further (#3), pact of professional principles (#8) clearly mandates that mental health professionals poverty put away LGAT connection.
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