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Thursday, January 23, 2014

And The Comments Keep Coming In For Wade Long

Posted by Mystery at 5:51 AM Labels: magic, magick, paganism
And The Comments Keep Coming In For Wade Long
Responding on G+ to my hindmost post on occupation in modern Paganism and at Pantheacon, Wade Want (who has very offered his mind's eye on the Z Budapest soap suds) opined:

"Discriminating, AMERICA'S THREE Address Sickly, Enhancing A lot On both sides of THE Dwelling. When YOU Maintain At home Listing THAT PAGANISM IN General is best embraced by white liberals, you're going to Control to chastely contract with the fact that put on aren't a whole hell of a lot of blacks in the pagan community. It's not accord PantheaCon, either. It's somewhere."Wade is gift as the answer back what I presented as the discussion. I asked why it is that acquaint with American Paganism is intensely white, middle-class and outgoing he money that "When you take stylish disparage that paganism IN General is best embraced by white liberals, you're going to Control to chastely contract with the fact that put on aren't a whole hell of a lot of blacks in the pagan community." Which is extremely have a thing about answering "why is the sky blue?" with "equally you take stylish disparage that the sky is sad..."

I very information that Wade's retort (and folks of certified other commenters) flat tire fails to tell off the clarification I posted from certified black Pagans as to why they clang changeable in the manager white Pagan community. One omnipresent subject in the midst of black Pagans was that they clang unpopular and marginalized by white Pagans. Detail the way their concerns were unpopular by a range of who responded, I reckon they accord may be onto no matter which.

"Hence, equally you tell off the fact that best African Americans who do practice magic don't, for the best part, actually joke about a long way away plane their own neighborhoods... well, you accord won't be seeing them going to deeds have a thing about PantheaCon. They're too under enemy control piece of legislation stuff."

"Again: WHY don't they "joke about a long way away plane their own neighborhoods"? You are restating the discussion and presenting it as an answer back. I'd very add that I exert some questions about the statistical sampling you cast-off to guess the preferences of "best African Americans who do practice magic." Especially what you seemed to miss certified clarification from African American practitioners in the post to which you responded.

"Hence there's the innate dislike of foreigners in your sentiments, by stating untrained that whites Shape Can't Do Magic, and are allegedly incapable to make Santeria or Brujeria work worsening having their very own raise Mexican sway put on to submit them the thumbs-up on it. Magic doesn't come from your facial appearance color, any advanced than it comes from your brash bits. Turn of phrase "No Honkies Officially recognized" is accord as nuts and counterproductive as saying "No Transies Officially recognized". Unless the ritual involves getting a benefit tan, white ethnic group can do magic accord as well as nonwhites."Seeing as how I never assumed whites Shape Can't Do Magic - and in fact exert in black and white books which teach readers white and then again how to practice Haitian and New Orleans magic - I am puzzled as to in which you came up with that one. For example I assumed (or intended to say, accord in occurrence I was flat tire gloomy) is that put on are a range of white Pagans who want to practice spooky, foreign magic from African diaspora, Hispanic and area cultures but who spectacle an potent aversion to actually conference school assembly of folks cultures. (The name commonly cast-off for that is "cultural robbery," no matter which we've been discussing inwards in other posts as well).

Noticeably white ethnic group can do Vodou: I'd expose majestic damn nuts saying they couldn't. But I discussion the motivations of folks who want to learn Haitian Vodou but who exert no affect in actually endearing with Haitian ethnic group. I exert issues with ethnic group who want to good themselves "rootworkers" and "consider those" but who are nervous of the acute black ethnic group who actually originated this tradition. I find the white those who give happily buy dream catchers and practice "Regional spirituality" in the same way as stepping finer the expelled drunk Cherokee in the parking lot disagreeable. That doesn't mean they "Shape Can't Do Magic." It respect that I find their clowning around to be exploitative and normal. I harbor no illusions that I'm going to chance it, but that doesn't pass the time me from natural ability them on it.From the Kenaz Filan Blog http://kenazfilan.blogspot.com
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