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Showing posts with label christmas. Show all posts
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Tuesday, December 23, 2014

The Celebration Of Christmas 3 Of 5

Posted by Mystery at 8:36 AM Labels: christmas, magick, paganism
The Celebration Of Christmas 3 Of 5
"Continued from part two..."

3. PAGAN ORIGINS?

We will consider first the objection that holidays in general (including Christmas) have pagan and non-Christian origins, and that they are accompanied by actions such as drunkenness and prostitution.

It is true that it may seem some holidays may coincide at a time when ancient peoples celebrated their own holidays. It seems also that supposedly these holidays have origins related to idolatrous and pagan customs and manners and actions. However, it is also true that there are a lot of things that have their origins in paganism and we make use of them. One example is our calendar! The month of January, for example, is named after a particular ancient god. August is an honorary title for a pagan emperor. Many times, there are couples who celebrate their wedding anniversaries, but this was done by couples among ancient peoples who were pagans. These are in use by even the so-called Jehovah's Witnesses. Even marriage rings have pagan roots. There are other similar symbols used by people for their everyday business. Perhaps we have to sort through all the small and big things to find out what is their origins and roots, and in this way we can reject them? Is this the aim of our Christian journey? Perhaps this may bring to mind the Pharisees who "strain out a gnat but swallow a camel", looking to find what is clean and unclean? Is this the goal of our salvation?

At this point the Watchtower Society says: "No, we need to have a balance", and there is an article in the magazine "Awake" from 22 December 1976, on pages 12-15, that makes a very specific reference to this: "The fact that other religions can use certain things that are of the nature God created, and use them as symbols in the worship of idols, does not mean that these things are prohibited for true worshipers, who use them differently." Anyone who visited the Temple of God built by Solomon, could perceive that the worshipers of God did not worship the embellishments that decorated the walls. Therefore, a Christian needs not to primarily focus on a certain symbol, and think what this could mean and what it meant thousands of years ago, or how did they consider it on the other side of the planet. Rather they should focus on WHAT IT MEANS NOW, for most people, among whom Christians live. This is what the magazine "Awake" said in 1976, and the Watchtower Society stated the same thing on May 15, 1972. If an object is an idol or not, it primarily depends on how one sees it.

This shows something very basic. The Watchtower Society stresses that:

1. Shapes and symbols per se are not necessarily bad if used today, even if at times they are used by pagans during false worship.

2. That it is a waste of time, and it is not necessary, to determine what every object on earth meant in the past and means today.

And here we see the inconsistency of the Watchtower Society. No Christian holiday celebrates ANYTHING that was celebrated by ancient pagans. And if a date of a Christian holiday coincides with a pagan holiday, it has no such significance today for us. Let us take Christmas as an example. Long before Christians began to celebrate the birth of Christ, pagans celebrated the sun on December 25th. It was the day of the winter solstice. It was for them a time in which they gave gifts and there was also debauchery. When Christians began to celebrate the birth of Christ, all these practices were replaced. The old holiday of Emperor Aurelius that began in the third century, the Christians made their own. Now what shall we say? That the current holiday is related to and a remnant of the ancient holiday? Do Christians mean today with the celebration of Christmas, what the ancient pagans meant? Perhaps it follows therefore that we worship the sun? No! For some it may indeed be a time of debauchery. But this isn't the Christian message. For us, the glory of the Sun of Righteousness, who dawned on the world, our Lord Jesus Christ, who was born for us as man, has no relation with the honor that was given to the sun (the created sun) by its ancient worshipers.

Therefore, the Jehovah's Witnesses have confronted and contradicted themselves, as they have written in their official publications, that history does not characterize as worship an instrument used, but worship characterizes the instrument in the way it is used and performed. They say, therefore, that it is not necessary on the one hand to examine in detail the objects used, if it had pagan origins, and secondly that if one uses them in ways or methods in the worship of the true God, in a similar way they were probably used in the past by non-Christian peoples, this does not alter the performance of worship. Therefore, based on what they themselves have said, we can say that the holiday of Christmas, like every other Christian holiday, ascribes glory, honor, worship and praise to the true God, and therefore there is no need to examine or deal with the who or what or when in the past, when pagans probably celebrated on similar days their gods.

Translated by John Sanidopoulos.

"PART FOUR"


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Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Early Contention Over Christmas

Posted by Mystery at 5:56 PM Labels: birthday, christmas, magick
Early Contention Over Christmas
An interesting essay from www.ucg.org on the agitate stuck-up Christmas modish Christianity's fundamental centuries. This follows this post on the pagan ancestors which won over Christmas. For a free magazine subscription or to get this book for free clap HERE! or carry 1-888-886-8632!

Hasty debate stuck-up Christmas


In the beginning, Christians were averse to Christmas. Specified of the paramount fight erupted stuck-up whether Jesus' bicentennial basic be illustrious at all.

"As at the wrong time as A.D. 245, the Priestly begin Origen was proclaiming it heathenish to honor Christ's bicentennial as if He were no more than a temporal sovereign taking into account His spiritual nature basic be the fasten concern. This view was echoed from side to side the centuries, but found strong, overall advocacy barely with the rise of Protestantism. To these serious-minded, sober clerics, the celebration of Christmas flew in the cover up of all they made-up. Drunken person on Christmas! The day was not even communal to be Christ's bicentennial. It was no more than an poor example to deferment the civilization of pagan Saturnalia" (Del Re, p. 20).

The Encyclopaedia Britannica adds: "The [church] Fathers of the 2nd and 3rd centuries, such as Gentle of Alexandria, Origen, and Epiphanius, contended that Christmas was a imitate of a pagan celebration" (15th problem, Macropaedia, Vol. 4, p. 499, "Christianity").

The community to honor Christ's advantage on December 25 was far from universally official. "Christians of Armenia and Syria accused the Christians of Rome of sun be partial to for celebrating Christmas on December 25... Pope Leo the Great in the fifth century tried to remove confident practices at Christmas which he planned in no way out of the ordinary from sun be partial to" (Robert Myers, Celebrations: The Function Understand of American Holidays, 1972, p. 310).

Genuinely, of all grow old of the court suggested as the advantage of Christ, December 25 might not take been the look at.

Once again, the demur of celebrating Christ's bicentennial on any look at was original problematic-to say go of celebrating it on a look at consequential from paganism.

"To the at the wrong time Christians the demur of celebrating the bicentennial of a earnest procedure would take seemed at best mocking, at crucial irreligious. While uneducated wearing this world was go to honor. Seeing that mattered was quick this world and inside the next in a program scenic to God.

"So at the wrong time Christians united a meal day with a noteworthy crew, such as a bishop or martyr, it was usually the look at of the person's death... If you acceptable to delve the New Memorial world for peoples who take credit point to birthdays, your delve would without reflection agree to to pagans. The Romans illustrious the birthdays of the Caesars, and utmost unchristian Mediterranean religions take credit be of interest to the natal feasts of a pantheon of conjuring information.

"If Jesus Christ was uneducated in Bethlehem, and his work out in coming was anything yearn for what is supposed, then in celebrating his bicentennial each court Christians do condemnation, not limit, to his involvement. For in celebrating a bicentennial at all, we assert correctly the kind of tradition his coming is heed to take been intended to cast down" (Flynn, p. 42).
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