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Friday, December 10, 2010

Shamnmkh

Posted by Mystery at 10:19 AM Labels: magick, percent-encoding, traditional wiccans
Shamnmkh
Reliable posts about Shamanism from a practitioner's approach.
These are some observe dumps I complete of two posts I complete on the Mysteria BBS (Tujunga, CA) about some documents they had online. I presume this stimulates choose chat and idea about the "new Shamanism" which has
miserably been turned trendy carnival new to the job New Age fad by hucksters who may or may not clutch been qualified in The Ways and in any skill are profaning and abusing them. Take to mean...and imagine.
Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass (White-Puma)

I did a diminutive poking more or less in the mimic documents about Shamanism and Shamanic consciousness. I necessitate say, I array with all that was introduce.
My researcher, Misha Deified Breakfast (which is a forshortening of a a good deal supercilious tiring name) is somewhat nauseated with the "Shamanism for sale" departure on in a jiffy in the "new age" signal. In imitation of the popularity of the Lynn Andrews books (which clutch all the dependability of the similar to Carlos Casteneda books, which is outer and none) and the a good deal supercilious certified "Way Of The Shaman", it is all but as hip to say "I am a
Pasty who has been qualified by Tenant Americans in their Ways, and I can train you for X-amount of dollars and X-amount of lessons,
" as it is to say "I tour guide such-and-such seeing that from (pick one) 1.)External Interrupt, 2.)from ancient Rome/Babylon/America/Atlantis or 3.) Dolphins."
The shaman in the Tenant American tradition is an awesome statue. The ultimate shaman, the one that is looked up to in the competition and trains others in routine parts of his (shamans were totally male) work, is Untutored to it. A child, totally the most sweet one, is named at shock as the recipient to the eddy shaman. He is qualified for all his
initial stages, and As well as is veteran. In the Chiricahua Apache tradition that Misha Deified Breakfast comes from, autonomously the shaman would clutch to fair and square flexibility off a cliff. Honestly. This "jumping off" was similar to interpreted as an Medium, rather than a physical trial, steadily induced by the ingestion of Peyotl or Jimson Weed. In these old days, the
test outcome were simple, binary, yes or no. If the shaman survives, he is the shaman. If he dies, along with it's time to train new to the job one.
In imitation of the use of peyotl, the outcome are not so knock down. Insanity, nature disassociation, and even goods by the supercilious lethal
discarnate entities (frequent surprisingly and plurally as Gan'n) were particular possibilities even for the ones who intensely "had it". Award were other shamans and shaman-trained tribe of Contract in the competition.
Healers, Midwives, Dancers, even the eddy Inday (Vital) were unlimited some initiation. But introduce possibly will be scarcely one true (in all work out of the word) Shaman of the Tribal band. A shaman would sometimes be profitable for his experience, and would be paid for his work at festivals.
But the experience possibly will never be intensely bought. I movement discussion supercilious flanking post. Enju! (kind of the equivalent of 'so mote it be') Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass

My scarcely falling-out with the book "The Way Of The Shaman" is the fact that the author, whose name escapes me at this time, has cut-rate the
shamanic test to a few basic elements which he claims as
universals. One of them is the healing way of the Jivaro, which
entails "sucking" diseases, in the form of spiritual intrusions, out of the "apathetic"'s sum. Not all shamanic traditions clutch that group of healing way. In fact, the healers and shamans of the
southwestern tribes resemble, supercilious or less, Chinese herbalists or Indian (that is, India-n)Ayurvedic doctors, relying somewhat a bit on a very advanced knowledge of auspicious herbs. Reasonable, you would above and beyond clutch grow old afterward the stain (totally everything mental or psychosomatic)
would be judged the work of in the sticks influences or of an inner disparity within the spirit itself. The prominent "border spirit"
transport of the Pasty Wall up Apaches (dishonestly frequent as the Gan'n or demon transport) was really an use in psychology, somewhere the fray in the company of the distress (in the form of a Gan'n, or evil discarnate spirit) and the shaman and his assistants (in the form of the Wall up Spirits, with their shiningly highlighted crowns, symbolic of the di-yin or divine energy that they clutch within and shiningly highlighted loincloths)
would be complete real for the apathetic. The "border spirits" would above and beyond implementation up at the girls' teenage years ceremonies, somewhere they would be prove to protect the girl, who would become, figuratively, Pasty Painted
Human being (sometimes rendered Pasty Encompass Human being) the embodyment of the Female God-principle, in the spectacle. As the mode of Pasty
Painted Human being, she would be very disoriented to spin by discarnate entities, so the dancers would transport to simplify the edging of the borough somewhere the spectacle would draw from place. But getting back to the healing Ways, most ailments would be treated herbally beforehand any other measures were lovesick.
In regards to Shamanism and Wicca seeing that inter-related, I would clutch to resist with the positions lovesick by the writers of those articles. Wicca holds a good deal in be an average of with the ancient Ways, and seems to signal a be an average of downward slope in Paleolithic grow old. The magickal swear of consciousness is very be keen on to the shamanic swear of
consciousness, and requires as a good deal press on of movement. As the Witch uses the press on of their Confer on to characterization their inner energy towards a routine explanation, the shaman uses the press on of their movement to see addition the limits of the physical world.
To sum up although, the world of today, somewhere moderately of hunting for one's dinner one hardly goes to the Supermarket and buys their
dinner pre-packaged and sometimes solid to eat with a negligible of understanding, and somewhere one has far supercilious insidious enemies than White- eyes and the Gan'n, the traditional Ways show some lessons, some
rethinking. As it was, for Misha to be prevailing as what she is by the dash of her band of Chiricahua Teneh, it hop a good deal adjustment.
She is scarcely 1/4 Chiricahua and less than half Tenant American, and she has the green eyes and light hair of her European downward slope. And she is female, somewhere normally among the Chiricahua a woman's place
was in the rearing of children and the preparing of food, clothing and other supplies for living in serenity with the Alight, and not that of the most settled statue of any tribal band, exponentially supercilious powerful than even the Inday. The Ways be acceptable awesome truths about ourselves, the Alight we sojourn, and even our multiverse. But they cannot be real quiet, clinging to days inclination beforehand on one hand, and cannot be bastardised trendy carnival new to the job "new age" restaurant of philosophy either. As a very mindful friend of dig up put it, "this Gem needs a new to-do." This is the challenge the modern-day Shamanist
faces, and I imagine this challenge above and beyond faces Wicca, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Sikhism, and whatever attempt of beliefs I didn't note. We cannot turn back the age and go
back to hunting buffalo and hair salon acorns. Even now, we can draw from this path unembarrassed trendy the approach.
"I bring the tempest, that you may know each other--WE SHALL RETURN!"
In imitation of those eager, powerful words of Wovoka, the Sioux chief of the "General feeling Do" signal of the 1880s, I imagine I've carnival about summed it all up. ENJU!
Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass (White-Puma)

Anew, I presume this stimulates some idea. If you wish to study
Shamanism, be very careful with whom you study with. Be very suspect of those who charge high measure, in fact with healings. The book "The Way Of The Shaman" by Michael Harner is a good introduction to some very basic information. The Sun Purloin affair above and beyond holds insights, but above and beyond has a cultish carry, next the "Purloin Tribe" is the scarcely untainted guard of Shamanic knowledge. Shake off the Lynn Andrews books next the plague, and footfall with anxiety more or less Carlos Castenada's works, in fact the similar to stuff. He IS voice-over the truth about some matter, so I do not signal rejecting his work source out of hand. I cannot submission any books in regard to my own tradition, equally introduce are really none, and I do not blueprint to type in one either, out of recognize to the Grandfathers and to Usen'. But introduce ARE untainted teachers out introduce. You can know them by carnival balanced more or less them. Proposition are the easiest dead giveaway, but general feeling is settled, too. Dedication your gut...it's totally specifically.

Hi-dicho...this is inclusive.
ENJU!
Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass (White-Puma)
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